"Ensuing Loss" Made Clearer by April Panel
Kelly Taylor, Dan Adams, and Steve Tilghman lead discussion on complex issue
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photos by Bryan Harrison, Harrison Promotional Services

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East Bay Claims is enjoying great turnouts, including more than 70 at the April 2007 luncheon. Good to see a wide array of claims people.

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EBCA Vice President Kelly Sullivan introduced the panel she put together, led by Kelly Taylor of CSE, and including Dan Adams of Golden Eagle, and Steve Tilghman of Claims Professional Resources.

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EBCA President Karen Cowan welcomed the April crowd and conducted monthly business prior to the panel discussion.

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AEBCA Pres., Karen Cowan, Restoration Mgmt Co., thanked the panel: Dan Adams, Golden Eagle Insurance; Kelly Taylor, CSE Insurance; and Steve Tilghman, Claims Professional Resources.

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At the helm: Karen Cowan, with Restoration Mgmt Co., and Kelly Sullivan, now with Koning & Associates.

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"Ensuing Loss" panel leader, Kelly Taylor, outlined the factors that define "ensuing loss".

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Dan Adams cited a personal situation that included an ensuing loss aspect to a claim. Not the broken pipe, but the mess is caused in his bathroom was ensuing loss.

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Ricelli Mordecai, of FRSTeam, smiles for her "paparazzi" at the April luncheon.
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EBCA Secretary and 2007 Golf Tournament Chair, Carol Valenzuela, of Pro-Tech Abatement Contractors, at the April luncheon.

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The attentive April crowd.

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Debbie Ginestar and Ricelli Mordecai, of FRSTeam

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IEBCA Board Member, Ray Depa, with Crawford & Co., presents the 50/50 Raffle winnings to first time attendee, Michael Tillman, with EFI Global.

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Kelly Szymulewski, with V&M Restoration, Inc., foreground, and Gary Glenn, with John Glenn Adjusters.

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April table centerpieces, actual bird feeders with seed, were provided by Kim Tamayo, of Coast Construction.

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Rachael Ferris, with Bay Area Four Star Restoration.

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It was an engaging panel discussion. Susan Spencer, with Cunningham Lindsey, center, is joined by Kristen Mayo, left, of TempHome Services, and Tom Shefchick, of Shefchick Engineering.

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Kelly Szymulewski and Jeff Crone, of V&M Restoration, Inc.

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The ever-lovable EBCA immediate Past President, Bob Tucknott, of Tucknott Electric Company.

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Andrew Handler and Chris Capels, of AIG, at the April meeting.

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Door prizes brought smiles.

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"Ensuing Loss" Panel at April EBCA
By Bryan Harrison

The April 11, 2007 luncheon meeting of the East Bay Claims Association featured a quality panel of claims professionals who addressed the issue of "Ensuing Loss" in Property Damage claims. Led by the venerable Kelly Taylor, of CSE Insurance, the panel included Dan Adams, with Golden Eagle Insurance, and Steve Tilghman, of Claims Professional Resources, representing the Independent Adjuster perspective.

The trio had obviously spent a bit of time in preparation together, tag-teaming quite smoothly in covering their subject matter.

Mr. Taylor led off with an overview of key terms and words that relate to ensuing loss. "Beyond the necessary risk of loss," he stated, "there first must be a damage occurrence." Emphasizing that the loss must be a "direct loss", Dan Adams interjected that it must also be an actual "physical loss".

"An insured states that, because of the water damage in their home they had to cancel their trip to Hawaii," Adams offered up. "Can they claim the value of that trip? Of course not," he stated flatly. "Coverage is only for the repair of the physical damage that has occurred to the property," he said.

Using a standard ISO Homeowners form as their benchmark, the panel discussed variations and customization many, of not most, carriers have made in writing their policies. However, Taylor was quick to point out that, by and large, carriers maintain consistency in their coverage variations. "They really don't want to stand out from the others," he stated.

Steve Tilghman explained the difference between "resulting" and "ensuing" loss is that the "resulting" loss is immediate. "Ensuing" damage is something occurs "down the road" because of this initial damage.

"Damage has to be covered, not precluded," he qualified.

Adams then picked up on that to cite a personal loss experience for perspective, explaining a broken pipe claim he submitted on his own home. "The damage of the broken pipe was covered," he explained. "But," he continued, "there was ensuing loss damage in the bathroom, caused by the broken pipe. With a $1,000 deductible, the very nice plumbers were happy to fix it for a total of $998," he expressed with a raised eyebrow.

This meeting extended the growing trend of large crowds at East Bay Claims luncheons, with over 70 people in attendance, and wide-spread adjuster representation.

Please note that, following the May luncheon at the Radisson Dublin, EBCA meetings will move for the remainder of the calendar year up to Zio Fraedo's Restaurant at 611 Gregory Lane in Pleasant Hill.

Thanks to all our April
Door Prize Sponsors

Bay Area Four Star
CRDN Bay Area
Coast Construction
EFI Global
FRSTeam
Har-Bro General Contractors
PW Stephens Contractors
Phoenix Restoration
Pro-Tech Abatement Contractors
Restoration Clean-Up Company
Restoration Management Company
ServiceMaster
TempHome Services
Tucknott Electric Co.
V&M Restoration, Inc.

Sign-Up NOW
for the Sixth Annual
EBCA Golf Tournament

Friday, August 17, 2007
Back at the
Boundary Oak Golf Course
top of the hill
Valley Vista Drive
Walnut Creek

Contact Golf Chair
Carol Valenzuela
for foursomes and sponsorship opportunities

(510) 538-1322
carolv@protechabatement.com

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Safety In The Field Focus at
May 9 East Bay Claims


Plan NOW to Attend
Wednesday
May 9, 2007

as we welcome guest speaker
Officer Jennifer Marino

San Francisco Police Department

We've had a change in plans for speaker for the May meeting.
Join us in welcoming Ms. Marino, the sister of East Bay Claims member Justine Bone, who will address Personal Safety in the Community

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Radisson Dublin
6680 Regional Street, Dublin, CA 94568
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Please RSVP with EBCA 2007 Secretary
Carol Valenzuela: carolv@protechabatement.com
Early Check-In will begin at 11:15 a.m. , Noon Lunch
Cost: $22 for current paid 2007 members with reservations
$27 for non-members/no reservations
Adjusters who are current 2007 paid members FREE

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